Barry Zurbuchen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. K. Khury [SMTP:anaha@pilot.infi.net]
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 1:41 PM
> To: Gary Koupf
> Cc: roger.hayne@milliman.com; John.Purple@po.state.ct.us;
> casnet@lists.casact.org
> Subject: Re: CAS Election Process
>
> GARY,
>
> I THINK YOU ARE READING TOO MUCH INTO MY ANSWER. I REALLY DO NOT KNOW
> WHAT
> MOTIVATED THE CURRENT PUSH TO REVIEW THE ELETION PROCEDURES. I THEREFORE,
> AND
> PERHAPS ERRONEOUSLY, ASSUME THAT SOMEONE HAS A PROBLEM OR PROBLEMS WITH
> THE
> RESULTS OF THE PROCESS. THAT IS WHY IT SOUNDS LIKE "IF IT AINT BROKE DONT
> FIX
> IT". I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PROBLEM...... IT IS NOT A
> WAY TO
> DEFEND THE STATUS QUO.
>
> NOW TURNING TO YOUR COMMENT THAT JUST BECAUSE THINGS ARE FUNCTIONING
> "SOMEWHAT",
> DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CANNOT BE IMPROVED. SO I PUT THE QUESTION
> DIFFERENTLY:
> WHAT ARE THE AREAS IN WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS?
>
> STAN
>
>
> Gary Koupf wrote:
>
> > I think we are about to enter into the most relevant discussion I have
> seen
> > on this list in a long time.
> >
> > I seem to hear Stan saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
> >
> > Just because it still functions somewhat, doesn't mean things cannot be
> > improved, just so that we don't end up really screwing things up
> (however,
> > in my experience - especially when dealing with my PC - one cannot
> always
> > see how bad things will become.)
> >
> > The way I see it, if we are going to call them elections, then they
> ought to
> > be elections in the spirit that elections are held here in the US - NOT
> how
> > they were held in the Communist Bloc in the recent past where the Party
> > nominated one candidate and there were no alternatives (if my
> understanding
> > is correct).
> >
> > I think in this one matter we can learn from the Canadian Institute
> where
> > they have the members nominate the candidates for all offices (if I
> remember
> > correctly). Then the candidates for president even consent to answer
> > questions posed by members through their e-mail list. That way the
> voters
> > can ask and evaluate the candidates on where they stand on the issues
> > affecting the actuarial profession and the society.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C. K. Khury [mailto:anaha@pilot.infi.net]
> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 1:27 PM
> > To: roger.hayne@milliman.com
> > Cc: John.Purple@po.state.ct.us; casnet@lists.casact.org
> > Subject: Re: CAS Election Process
> >
> > Roger.
> >
> > You want discussion.... and that is what you will get.
> >
> > I read your notes with intetest. I understand all of your observations
> and
> > what you would like to see happen with putting up most of the positions
> of
> > responsibility for election.
> >
> > So, to kick off the discussion, I temporarily will assume your position
> that
> > everyone who is elected is really not elected but appointed/annointed,
> and
> > would like to ask you, what is it that is broken that you would like to
> see
> > fixed? Is the condition we assume, that some people are
> > appointed/annointed, a prpoblem by itself? Are the appointed/annointed
> > people
> > doing a bad job when a better job could be done by elected people? Are
> some
> > deserving people getting overlooked by this appointment/annointment
> process?
> > Or is it something else. I think it would help this discussion if you
> would
> > identify the problems (or the consequences of the problems) you see with
> the
> > current set up.....
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Stan.
> > PS. While we are at it, would you want the executive director position
> up
> > for election? And if not, why not?
> >
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